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Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU's National Security Project, which filed a freedom-of-information request regarding the latest memos, said any distinction Bybee may make between the logic of the memos and their application in secret prisons is theoretical at best.
"I don't think the August 2002 memos reflect serious attempts to grapple in good faith with the law," Jaffer said. "These are documents that are meant to justify predetermined ends. They're not objective legal memos at all."
Friends Say Judge Bybee Regrets Interrogation Memo He Signed
Seeded on Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:11 PM EDT
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This article really left me speechless. What criminal ever didn't regret getting caught?
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#1 - Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:21 PM EDTHey Bybee isn't that too friken bad.
I do hope they kick your butt out of office.
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#2 - Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:01 PM EDTI'm with you multifariousone, I was appalled. This is a federal judge for gods sake.....
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#3 - Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:47 AM EDTThis "officer of the court" that reinterpreted clear law to mean the opposite. As I understand we had executed someone for water boarding so precedent had been set. This is classic "Rule of convenience" that is being executed in the courts across this country.
Bybee's regrets do not include stepping down from the position of Judge he was given for reinterpreting the law for the convenience of certain populations. He is also getting Pro-bono support from the legal community, Latham's Mahoney. Others with income cannot afford competent counsel or even if they can they cannot trust their strategies - yet legal services are given for free to one that betrayed the law. Of course I may misunderstand the intent of the law - "rule of whimsy" - today we can torture, you cannot, if you do we will execute you.
Our experiences indicate that "rule of law" is really "rule of whimsy", we have had Virginia courts defer to theocratic therapists and dismiss state therapists. A police assault that was covered up by the environment, retained attorneys that chose a strategy dismissing evidence and courts that made judgments without hearing the case. The Judge Bybee issue identifies pervasive problem with the courts in this country.
#4 - Sat May 30, 2009 8:18 AM EDTOne last thing, Bybee reinterpreted a law, that had precedence, to mean that torture a criminal activity was okay. He is now a Federal Judge expressing regrets but does not regret it enough to step down.
Can we trust the Judgments of this individual ?
To torture or not to torture ..... law of whimsy. Interpretation of convenience for whatever population they are affiliated with, a theocratic population would have a different interpretation from a secular population. A member of a racist group would interpret the law differently from a civil rights group. What are the foundations of Bybee, one who made such an interpretation of the law - which had precedence.
#5 - Sat May 30, 2009 8:28 AM EDTWhile the right supports torture and Bybee's memo's they scream about judges making law. A little more hypocrisy from the American right.
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#6 - Sat May 30, 2009 3:41 PM EDTWe should show Bybee more compassion: He needs to be left alone to take some time to reflect on his regretted decision: about 15 years in solitary sounds about right to me...
#7 - Sat May 30, 2009 8:57 PM EDTThe combination of this attorney's interpretation of law and avoidance by the oversight institutions identifies a significant failure in the judicial system.
For example in 2000 the Virginia State Bar removed a set of ethical "Canon's" that if implemented would have given a client leverage over retained counsel - Virginia's vanishing "Code of Professional Responsibility" for Attorneys.
Since that change we have experienced attorney desertion, multitaskers, overlookers of evidence and been told that "innocent till proven guilty" has very little meaning. In Virginia this is considered attorney "strategy". The claim is based on our experiences with at least ten "officers of the court", I cannot trust that any member of the Virginia State bar would "zealously" represent us.
#8 - Mon Jun 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDTThanks for the information about what has transpired in Virgina. It's a pity. We are all entitled to vigerous represenation.
Has anyone challenged this?
#9 - Wed Jun 3, 2009 1:46 PM EDTCant afford to "challenge" and usually come up against ridicule if there is a response, usually there is silence. There is a special task force set up by the Bar after a A lawyer's misdeeds spur state bar to revisit proposal , I wrote the Bar again and they responded that they would take our issues under advisement. I suspect that the task force is a placebo put in place to make it seem like they are doing something given that this happened in 2000 Manassas Lawyer Faces More Charges (December 6, 2000) my girlfriends attorney. If they were doing something this would not have happened twice and they would not be clueless.
From our experiences, even if we could buy representation I would not trust it unless they had incentive.
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